Jack White answering TMR Vault Members and fans questions and comments about the new TIDAL offer for vault members:
hey y’all,
first off let me say that everyone at third man is excited to be part of offering tidal hifi to our vault members that we treasure so dearly. tmr has always had the goal of preserving the sanctity of music and helping artists who have no voice get thier music heard. below i’ll try to answer some of the more common questions we’ve been hearing. dont worry, none of this is done in negative reaction, i get where you’re coming from and why you are feeling certain ways, but here’s an artists take on the comments and questions, i hope it helps understand where all the musicians are coming from. it’s a tough time for music, i encourage people to be on the side of supporting musicians, giving to them, not taking from them. god bless
jw
III
Q: With the amount we pay for the vault, tidal should be free, not just discounted
jack white: third man does not own or make decisions for tidal, this deal is incredibly cool and took us a long time to work on the logistics of. third man is artist owned, and tidal is artist owned. it wasn’t something we had to do at all, but we wanted
the vault members to all know they come first and they have a portal to this artist run streaming service through us now.
Q: What a joke. I refuse to support The vault and tidal. if you claim music is so special and sacred then why charge a premium for people to enjoy it?
jack white: how much did you pay for that last movie you saw at the theater? and how much did that movie cost to make? dont devalue musicians man, support them. making records is expensive, believe us, i dont see people saying we should go to the movies for free, or netflix should be free. that state of music is in flux, be on the side of supporting creativity, not taking from it. this gives you that chance.
Q: I can purchase a new record every month with that $20.
jack white: please do! when i was a teeenager i would go to the record store twice a month and buy 4 records each trip, anywhere from between 12 and 18 bucks a piece! and guess what? i still do! and with tidal, for 9.99 you have every record they can possibly get there hands on to stream. in the car, in the gym. places you can’t play vinyl right? think about it: how much did you spend on movies this year?
Q: sorry Jack, but I have 0 interest in making jayz more money.
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Q: I'm sorry, but I don't understand how Jack could be involved in this awful business model. Totally screws the fans, I thought he was a bit above that. How much money does he need?
jack white: a streaming service owned by artists is the first step, it’s not about the rich getting richer. it takes artists that can get peoples attention to be able to make a scenario possible for those artists that dont have a voice to get in a position where they aren’t struggling, and beleive me third man records is full of artists the mainstream’s never heard of and have no voice or power in the system. have you heard of rachelle garnier? what about the smoke fairies? drakar sauna? pujol? the gories? those are just some of the up and coming artists on third man that try to make a living in music. and if you stream thier songs….they get paid for it. and they get to LIVE and not take second jobs….and make MORE music! i support keeping musicians you love in business. we want a full third man roster page on tidal that you can stream hundreds of records on, and each time that artist gets something. that’s a beautiful thing.
and also…do we tell steven spielberg we dont need to pay him anymore to watch his movies? he’s made enough off of us right? he should show his new films for free right? haha
Hey, JW III ! I will gladly pay $15.00 more for all the additional TIDAL benefits to my Vault subscription. I consider YOU a national treasure for all your contributions to music: by creating beautiful songs, literally saving vinyl/analog sound, and helping preserve music’s American heritage! “I suspect one far away day, when your frame is old and your hair is gray, and all your works for beauty read, there will be a crown placed on your head. Nothing Kingly, nothing quaint, but nothing less for a bless-ed Saint.”
..so “showcase” and “stream away” all those struggling professional musicians out there, Jack, I’m sympathetic to their dreams… 75 bucks is my limit though ;-)
like the poor person that loves to dream and the tired soldier loves peace
I don’t have anything else, I am a voice and you are gonna hear it @Jack white
Super appreciative for the Tidal discount. I’m all about supporting musicians and paying for music. So thank you oodles, TMR!
I was sceptical until I listened. Thanks for the deal! It’s still a little buggy so, I’m hoping that’ll be fixed soon but, lower premium than spotify for the higher quality sound is so very appreciated! Keep introducing me to your artists and I’ll keep loving them, thanks again for all y’all do, I feel your love and send it back a thousand times!!
I’m so grateful for all of this thank y’all so much
I know you’re only answering questions about Tidal but since you’re out there, I just wanted say thank you so much for streaming your final acoustic show, on behalf of the thousands of fans who couldn’t make it into any of those five shows. It was a beautiful set and you should get a LOT of credit for doing such intimate shows like that being such a big star. It was fantastic!
I don’t understand how people can be so outraged by something they aren’t obligated to purchase.
Taxes and how they’re spent…. There’s something to get upset about.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for making it a priority to get a deal for Vault members. Truly above and beyond what I had hoped for. $5 a month for Tidal frees up lots of money to buy vinyl that I normally would have spent on digital downloads. I’ve already found a ton of new music and musicians to enjoy in the week that I’ve been subscribing, and I’m really looking forward to seeing how the Discovery section develops for unsigned artists.
tidal x jack white x tmr vault is actually incredible and i never questioned it for a second BUT i love this post and I’ll love jack & tmr forever and ever
Hahahaha! I asked this over at Facebook, could Jack answer it here, please? “Hey Jack, how many times a day does this shit make you want to bang your head against a wall?” Hah!