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You've got questions and comments about TIDAL, and Jack White has answers... These questions and comments were submitted by members of the Third Man Records Vault as well as fans on Facebook, and are addressed here by Jack White himself.
From Vault Members in Vault Chat:
Will smaller artists be treated more fairly with TIDAL than, say, Spotify?
Jack: Damn straight. I'm aiming to get unknown artists paid so that they can make more music.
Can you tell us more about TIDAL?
Jack: TIDAL is going to help a lot of artists out. I'm talking about the punk band that has 50k hits on Youtube and doesn't see a dime.
I think TIDAL is a noble cause, I don't understand the backlash that it's getting.
Jack: There’s a lot of misinformation about music in the last decade, people know that it costs a lot of money to make a super hero movie, but they don't know that it costs millions to make a country album too.
Will the release of TIDAL help TMR grow as a company?
Jack: We want to get the music of TMR from the unknown artists out to as many people as possible.
Thank you for being an advocate for all musicians, not just the ones who have made it.
Jack: Glad you dig it. Unknown musicians don't have a voice being heard, i want those artists to make a living at being artists so more great music can happen.
I really struggled to tell a large difference in "high definition" audio with the PONO player. Is TIDAL that much better?
Jack: Depends on what you're listening too. Ear buds and computer speakers are only good for ham radio as far as I can hear! Haha! Remember there was a culture of hi fidelity stereo audiophiles that got tossed aside because of computers being the new stereo. There was a lot of beauty in that, just like watching a nicely streamed hd movie on a wide screen television with surround sound is gonna be the next plate?
What are some of your favorite artists on TIDAL that we can check out?
Jack: I want to get all of tmr's music on TIDAL, so those songwriters and musicians can get their songs to a bigger audience (remember most of those artists don't get radio airplay) and I want them to get paid royalties for their songs too so they can live.
I trust that you wouldn't get involved in a simple grab for money like other people are accusing y'all of... I just wish it was something I could afford. With the vault membership, there's not much left over for other "non-essentials…"
Jack: Well I used to buy three records a month at 18 bucks a piece when I was a teenager bussing tables. I also went to the movies three times a month. What did that cost? Same as today with inflation? hmmm...
How big of game changer do you think TIDAL will be?
Jack: It's about educating everyone. It could make a difference just like tmr has made in the vinyl world in that last 6 years. It starts with people who think music is sacred and beautiful.
I think TIDAL is great for the fact that it will get more money to artists. After reading how little Pharrell from Pandora streaming off of one of "Happy." Really made me realize how little musicians just starting out must be making, when Pharrell only made $2700 off of something like 43 million plays
Jack: Yep, whoever started the model of making a website that gets paid by big advertisers (Youtube) and does not pay that money to the artists GENERATING the interest. Makes no sense to an artist trying to survive.
I totally understand wanting to help out smaller artists. My musicians buddies are all struggling.
Jack: But also bigger artists, medium artists, whatever, if PSY gets viewed 2 billion times and makes a couple grand, where did all his money go?
It's also very important to buy real records from artists you love when they are on tour. That buys gas in our tanks when we were struggling.
Jack, I truly believe TIDAL will change music in 21st century... for the sake of music Jack, did all the artists from TIDAL get along?
Jack: Yes we did. We spent all last night talking and discussing ways to make it very cool. Here's the shocker: musicians want you to hear their music in the best ways possible. We mix on very nice speakers and systems only to have 90% of it be heard on tiny components that cut out half the information
Any largely unknown artists we should be looking for on TIDAL?
Jack: I hope tons. I want tons of obscure albums that haven't been digitized to be on there too. Loretta Lynn recorded something like 90 albums! How many can you acquire or stream digitally? 4? 6? Where are the other 80+?
Which is why I find it interesting that you listen to your music playback in your car when you're working on records, or so I read.
Jack: Digital in the car, Vinyl in the bedroom, baby
Does TIDAL have any plans for supporting independent artists? I hear that services like Youtube will soon be wiping away independent artists vids etc. or they will be charging them to host their content... something to that effect anyway...
Jack: Lots of ideas, but you KNOW I'm all for independent artists getting heard.
TIDAL is a bit elitist to be talking about the little guy in the music industry no?
Jack: What is elitist about it? Who's speaking for the little guy?
Jack, it's because everyone has gotten used to free and cheap
Jack: Should movies be free too? How about food?
From Fans on Facebook:
With the amount we pay for the Vault, TIDAL should be free, not just discounted
Jack: Third Man does not own or make decisions for tidal, this deal is incredibly cool and took us a long time to work on the logistics of. third man is artist owned, and tidal is artist owned. it wasn’t something we had to do at all, but we wanted the vault members to all know they come first and they have a portal to this artist run streaming service through us now.
What a joke. I refuse to support The vault and TIDAL. if you claim music is so special and sacred then why charge a premium for people to enjoy it?
Jack: How much did you pay for that last movie you saw at the theater? And how much did that movie cost to make? Don't devalue musicians man, support them. Making records is expensive, believe us, I don't see people saying we should go to the movies for free, or Netflix should be free. that state of music is in flux, be on the side of supporting creativity, not taking from it. this gives you that chance.
I can purchase a new record every month with that $20.
Jack: Please do! When I was a teenager I would go to the record store twice a month and buy 4 records each trip, anywhere from between 12 and 18 bucks a piece! and guess what? i still do! and with tidal, for 9.99 you have every record they can possibly get there hands on to stream. In the car, in the gym. Places you can’t play vinyl right? Think about it: how much did you spend on movies this year?
Sorry Jack, but I have 0 interest in making JayZ more money, and I don't understand how Jack could be involved in this awful business model. Totally screws the fans, I thought he was a bit above that. How much money does he need?
Jack: A streaming service owned by artists is the first step, it’s not about the rich getting richer. it takes artists that can get peoples attention to be able to make a scenario possible for those artists that don't have a voice to get in a position where they aren’t struggling, and believe me third man records is full of artists the mainstream’s never heard of and have no voice or power in the system. have you heard of Rachelle Garnier? what about the Smoke Fairies? Drakar Sauna? Pujol? The Gories? Those are just some of the up and coming artists on third man that try to make a living in music. And if you stream their songs… they get paid for it. And they get to LIVE and not take second jobs….and make MORE music! I support keeping musicians you love in business. We want a full third man roster page on tidal that you can stream hundreds of records on, and each time that artist gets something. that’s a beautiful thing.
And also… do we tell Steven Spielberg we don't need to pay him anymore to watch his movies? He’s made enough off of us right? He should show his new films for free right? haha
As you may already know, Platinum Vault members are eligible to get a TIDAL HiFi subscription for $5/month (a 75% discount!) Read more about that here. If you're not a Vault member, sign up here. If you're ready to sign up for unlimited lossless streaming, proceed to TIDAL.com...
TMR-308 / The Gories / “Be Nice” b/w “On the Run” Available Tuesday, May 19th
The baddest garage band from Detroit city, The Gories, is embarking on a 20-date campaign through the wilds of Europe and to help celebrate those live shows Third Man is proud to announce the release of their first 7” of new material in over twenty years! “Be Nice” is originally by The Nomads, featured prominently on “Back from the Grave” volume 4 compilation and is completely reclaimed by the Gories to fit in their inimitable style. “On the Run” is the first original badass Collins/Kroha composition in forever and while appearing on a streaming-only compilation a few years back is seeing its first physical release here.
In hopes to get the continent worked up into a frenzy, the Gories will be selling the tricolor version of this single exclusively at their European merch table. We’ll leave it to the band to figure how to handle with the screaming hordes, but the black vinyl version is available TODAY online and in our Nashville storefront (and quite probably a record store near you!)
Listen to a clip from "Be Nice" here below, grab yourself a copy of the 7" here, and if you haven't already picked up our previous Gories release, The Shaw Tapes Live in Detroit in 5/27/88, there's never been a better moment...
EUROPEAN TOUR DATES:
5/15 NL Haarlem - Patronaat
5/16 FR Bourges - Cosmic Trip
5/17 BE Diksmuide - 4AD
5/18 BE Antwerpen - Het Bos
5/19 NL Eindhoven - Effenaar
5/20 NL Groningen - Vera
5/21 DE Cologne - Gebaude 9
5/22 FR Paris - Vilette Sonique
5/23 DE Stuttgart - Goldmarks
5/24 CH St Gallen - Palace
5/26 SB Belgrade - Dom Omladine
5/27 CH Geneva - La Graviere
5/28 IT Milan - LOFI
5/29 IT Ravenna - Bronson
5/30 IT Bucine - Spectre
5/31 FR Marseille - Sud Side
6/2 FR Perpignan - DrinkShop
6/4 ES San Sebastian - DabaDaba
6/5 ES Madrid - Sala But
6/6 ES Sevilla - Sala X
October 2012 was a good time for Third Man Records... we expanded our headquarters, we got our hands on the 1953 Scully Lathe from King Records that we've all come to know and love, and we decided the direct-to-acetate upgrade to our live records deserved an upgrade to the artwork that accompanies them as well. Hence, the live record picture sleeve was conceived! Well, it's high time we start to give the shiny and new treatment to some of our shiny and not-so-new records, because they deserve it.
So, for $1 a piece, you can now purchase new-and-improved sleeves for the records in your collection from our Live 12" series. The first wave of covers is available to purchase now (HERE!), with the remaining to follow in the coming months. Give your live records a little love... with all the enjoyment they've provided you, they deserve it.
And, for those of you who don't have a record shelf full of Live at Third Man Records LP's, now when you purchase from the catalog, your records will come with the new photo covers that we have available. Right now, those titles are... Neil Hamburger, Ted Leo, Cold War Kids, The 184.108.40.206's, Jacuzzi Boys, Jeff the Brotherhood, Tyvek, Jenny & Johnny, Nobunny, Pujol, The Racontwoers, Conan O'Brien, Dex Romweber Duo, Benjamin Booker, Parquet Courts, Alloy Orchestra, Jack Johnson, Mudhoney, Divine Fits, Rory Scovel, Melvins, The Shins, The Kills, and Seasick Steve. Phew!
Third Man Books will be participating in the Poetry ReIncarnation at the Roundhouse, London, to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the First International Poetry Incarnation, which saw over seven thousand people pack the Royal Albert Hall to witness performances by wordsmiths such as Allen Ginsberg, Gregory Corso, William S. Burroughs, Lawrence Ferlinghetti, Michael Horovitz, musician Davy Graham, and the birth of 60’s counterculture in the UK. For the ReIncarnation, Third Man Books poet Janaka Stucky and editor/poet Chet Weise will be joining musician Duke Garwood, poets Michael Horovitz (!), Francesca Beard, Elvis McGonagal, Kei Miller and more... Also, the fine folks at Rough Trade have named Third Man Books as their publisher of the month, and we will be hosting an event at Rough Trade East on May 29th to warm up for the ReIncarnation.
Nashville Mayor Karl Dean, joined by Metro Parks and the Nashville Convention and Visitors Corp., today announced that GRAMMY-winning artists Loretta Lynn and Jack White will be inducted into the Music City Walk of Fame and join in the official ribbon-cutting of the newly-renovated Walk of Fame Park. How fitting, right? The event will be at 1 p.m. on Thursday, June 4 and is free and open to the public.
“I can’t think of a better way to celebrate the reopening of Walk of Fame Park than with the induction of Loretta Lynn and Jack White – two very diverse artists,” Mayor Dean said. “They represent what is best about Nashville with music that spans multiple genres and generations. They are great ambassadors for the creative community in our city, and I congratulate them on this wonderful honor.”
Both the induction ceremony and ribbon-cutting celebration will take place at Walk of Fame Park on Demonbreun Street, between Third and Fourth Avenues. In addition to the inductions of Lynn and White, the new plaque design for all of the renovated stars will be unveiled.
“Individually, Loretta Lynn and Jack White have each made an enormous impact on Nashville’s music scene,” said Ken Levitan, NCVC Board Chair and President of Vector Management. “Collectively, the impact of their collaborations has been felt exponentially and worldwide. The Walk of Fame showcases our diverse history and illustrates to fans from all over the world why we are Music City.”
“The improvements at Walk of Fame Park will enable the city to take better advantage of one of the busiest event parks downtown,” said Tommy Lynch, director of Metro Parks and Recreation. “The park will feature more usable green space and better electrical and sound capabilities, and it continues to celebrate the Nashville Music Garden, which is home to nearly 300 roses, including some that are very rare.”
The Music City Walk of Fame was created in the fall of 2006 on Nashville’s Music Mile, a roughly one-mile stretch that connects downtown to Music Row.
The Walk of Fame is a landmark tribute to those from all genres of music who have made significant contributions to preserving the musical heritage of Nashville and have contributed to the world through song or other industry collaboration. With the addition of Loretta Lynn and Jack White, the Walk of Fame boasts 63 stars. Permanent sidewalk medallions with the artists’ name displayed in a star-and-guitar design will be installed in the sidewalk along the Music Mile.
We decided to throw a big fish in the pond for you to catch this week. When Alison Mosshart, Jack Lawrence, Dean Fertita and Jack White decided to make music together, Nashville's electricity usage spiked 300%, the water in the Cumberland River started to rise and threaten, tornado sirens started wailing daily, and the number of births skyrocketed. The result of two and a half weeks of whirlwind writing and recording is one of our most perfect releases. "Hang you from the Heavens," "Treat Me Like Your Mother," and "I Cut Like A Buffalo" are just three of 11 stormy tracks on the Dead Weather's debut record Horehound. If you don't already have this double LP in your collection, fix that problem immediately and for a NICE PRICE by picking up our Record of the Week!